Sometimes we will get asked the question, “When do I know when it’s time to quit what I’m doing and try something different?” In other words, how do I know when it’s time to pivot? In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les share some general principles and words of encouragement to anyone who might feel stuck in their current situation and looking for a fresh start. Jon and Les also share some big announcements about some pivots they’re making with the EntrePa...

None of us naturally enjoy when big problems suddenly come upon us in our lives. We generally do our best to stay in a place of relative comfort and avoid hardship. But the truth is, God often works through some of the most challenging circumstances in our lives to grow us to levels beyond what we ever thought possible. In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les talk with Jeremy Brown about some significant challenges he has been faced with and how he has trust...

As leaders and entrepreneurs, it can be easy to spend much of our time frustrated with how far we feel like we have yet to go in order to reach the goals and dreams we’re pursuing. This can lead us to a posture of impatience. On the other end of the spectrum some would-be entrepreneurs stay stuck for far too long in passive inaction, waiting for everything to come into perfect alignment before taking any steps forward to their preferred future. In this episode of the EntrePastors ...

For many people getting started in business, there is a natural resistance and discomfort in promoting their services to the marketplace. For a PASTOR who is launching a business, this can be even more of a challenge due to years in pastoral ministry dealing with scarcity thinking and the false humility that is often prevalent in a community of Christians. In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les list five tips for how to promote your products, services, and offeri...

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, Jon and Les bring you the inspiring story of Zach Nyhuis as he shares his multifaceted journey as a pastor, entrepreneur, and founder of Rural Pastors International. Zach's story begins with a life-changing trip to Uganda for his sister’s wedding, where he met Martin Nuku and realized his dream of training rural pastors in both theological and vocational skills. This encounter led to the formation of Rural Pastors International, an organization ded...

In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, we're diving into the world of coaching within pastoral ministry with our special guest, Dr. Barbara Ettinger. As an ordained pastor and leader within the Evangelical Covenant Church, Barbara brings a wealth of experience from her 30 years in ministry and her innovative coaching initiatives. Dr. Ettinger emphasizes how coaching can empower individuals to find clarity and direction in their paths. She shares the distinctive skills that make effectiv...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon shares five statements of good news for pastors as we enter 2025. Listen in as he unpacks the following ideas: You have the ability to change the narrative of the starving pastor…at least for you!You have far more freedom than you’ve been led to believe.The model of the full-time pastor is quickly becoming a thing of the past.Everything you want is on the other side of ACTION.You don’t have to take this journey alone. Call to Action: ...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon speaks some words of encouragement and hope to any pastor who is struggling feeling discouraged, defeated, and desperate. In our work at EntrePastors, it’s not uncommon for us to hear from pastors who are so exhausted and frustrated. When they initially come to us we can see it in their posture and hear it in their countenance. However, we have also seen some of those discouraged and desperate pastors get to a place of abundanc...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast Jon interviews Jan Touchberry as they dive deep into the intersection of ministry and business. They explore Jan’s journey from vocational ministry to launching her "accidental" business in network marketing and affiliate marketing, and how her technical and marketing skills naturally transitioned her into the business world. They discuss the evolving landscape of bi-vocational ministry, the stigma pastors face when pursuing outside work, and the br...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with fellow pastor and author Eric Hoke about his new book Market Street Pastor. Eric contends that pastors want to work hard to provide for their families, be radically generous, and build a legacy of ministry that they can be proud of. In the modern ministry vocation, the only way to do this is to expand vocational options and earn additional income outside of the church. The problem is that pastors have only ev...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon has an awesome conversation with Justin Johnson, founder of Dominion Wealth Strategists, a company that was founded with the sole mission of putting more money into the hands of God’s people. Justin discusses the flawed ideology that exists among some believers that celebrates poverty and avoids even the appearance of abundant wealth. Justin believes when God’s people embrace the dominion for which they were created, they will find ...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon has an awesome conversation with Nathan Bailey about his journey in the pastoral and entrepreneurial space. In addition to serving as a vocational pastor, Nathan has also built a very successful real estate portfolio and property management company in recent years. We discuss how he has managed the tension of working in both the church and the marketplace. Nathan is currently in the early stages of launching a coaching busines...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon sits down with Katrina Fitten, the founder of New Day For You Financial. Katrina spent a season of her life in vocational ministry, but in recent years has shifted more into the marketplace as a financial coach. She primarily serves female entrepreneurs with financial literacy, coaching, and funding of their new businesses. Katrina subscribes to a way of thinking that is very relevant to where so many pastors in our audience f...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon shares 10 statements, both positive and challenging about some common traits shared by the majority of pastors. It’s quite possible you will be uncomfortable with some of the statements that are made, but it’s also quite likely that you’ll hear a word of encouragement as well. Our prayer would be that God will use this episode to not only help you get clarity on where you currently are, but the courage to take action to move to a be...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk about a book that has made a big impact on Les in recent days called Indistractable: How To Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life by Nir Ayal. Les lays out some of the big ideas from the book as he and Jon talk about the importance of learning to be more focused and present in our ever increasingly busy and chaotic world. The reality for most pastors and entrepreneurs is the constant onslaught of all the distracti...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Joel Bromley about the business/ministry he and his wife Kaitlin are building in the arena of financial coaching. Joel works as a full-time firefighter and Kaitlin serves on staff in their local church, but they are both passionate about helping other people not only experience financial freedom from debt, but also to be able to live and give like they never thought possible as they learn to get their financial houses in...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Aaron Hansz about his journey from working in the marketplace into vocational pastoral ministry. Aaron shares his unique perspective of some of the more noteworthy observations he made coming into the church world as compared to the corporate marketplace. And while Aaron is very excited about his work as a pastor, he continues to pursue an entrepreneurial business around coaching in addition to his corporate work. ...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Rich Sanders about his new book The Christian Capitalist. Rich is a pastor, small business owner, healthcare attorney, retired adjunct professor at Emory University, and former intelligence officer in the U.S. Navy. He and his wife, Rebekah, met at church in 1996, have been blessed with three children (James, Will, and Caroline) and live in Destin, Florida. Through this conversation you will hear Rich share why he’s so ...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les talk with Tim Walker about his incredible church planting journey as well as an exciting business he is building. Tim planted Restored Church 12 years ago in Wilkes Barre, PA. Tim describes Restored Church as an urban church that is primarily of and for the poor. They’ve seen God do incredible things including never having a Sunday yet without new people, they’ve celebrated over 200 baptisms, and their church is primarily filled with fi...

In this episode of the EntrePastors Podcast, Jon and Les dive into the heartfelt journeys of Rusty Roberts and Sean Murphy. Rusty, motivated by his mother’s miraculous recovery from stage 4 cancer, founded Brio Medical Clinic in Scottsdale, Arizona. His work, deeply rooted in his faith, is guided by scriptures from Psalms and a desire to help others receive the Lord's promises. Rusty shares his unique approach to cancer treatment and leadership, despite having no medical background, and has a...