Welcome to The English Secrets Podcast where you can listen in on the examiners and native speakers to hear the secrets of what they are doing differently to speak more fluently, get more points in the B1, B2 and C1 exams, make more money being multilingual, avoid grammar and traditional old school teaching, and do it all without sacrificing your personal lives. We've got roll up your sleeves kind of learning with a little bit of cleverness and a lot of heart. We are the experts on proficiency exams and this is our podcast. (Hosted by Carmen Liu)