In this captivating episode, we delve into the intricacies of democratic innovation with Claudia Chwalisz, founder and CEO of Democracy Next. Claudia's organization is pioneering a global platform aimed at transforming governance by incorporating principles of sortition and deliberation, not just in government, but across various institutions like schools, universities, and workplaces. We discuss the importance of moving away from the oversimplification of complex issues, a prevalent problem in current democratic systems. She explains how creating deliberative spaces, such as citizens' assemblies, allows for a deeper engagement with complexity. One of the key highlights is the role of face-to-face interactions in these deliberative processes. She argues that while technology can enhance these processes, it cannot replace the depth of in-person engagement. In discussing the evolution of democracy, Claudia touches on historical perspectives and the need for continuous experimentation and innovation in governance. In fact societies have always experimented with different forms of governance, challenging the notion of a static, inevitable democratic system. We also touched on the concept of social acceleration, as theorized by Hartmut Rosa. She believes that creating intentional spaces for deliberation can help address feelings of alienation and disconnection, ultimately leading to a more resonant and cohesive society. Join us for this enlightening conversation that challenges conventional views on democracy and offers a fresh perspective on how we can create a more inclusive and effective system of governance. References The Dawn of Everything - David Graeber and David Wengrow Social Acceleration: A New Theory of Modernity -Hartmut Rosa Resonance: A Sociology of Our Relationship to the World - Harmut Rosa