In this episode, we sit down with Clare, a dynamic leader, to explore how the DRIVE framework reshaped her approach to leadership, team collaboration, and even personal relationships. From her natural curiosity about human behavior to spearheading DRIVE rollouts across a 5,000-person organisation, Clare shares real-world moments of transformation—where energy aligned, trust deepened, and collaboration flourished. Whether you're a leader navigating complexity or a team builder chasing flow, this conversation is packed with aha moments, practical wisdom, and a powerful reminder: when you understand the Drives behind behavior, everything changes.