In this final episode, Eleanor and Polly look back over their time together in doing the podcast and they assess where humanity seems to be standing in regard to war and wisdom. They reflect on the state of war and why humans return repeatedly to armed polarization, called “war.” And they talk about other options for polarization – being able to talk about our differences in a humanized way. Why is that still apparently unachievable? How does humane dialogue relate to mindfulness? Why are we stuck still in hostile enactments with other humans? In this final meeting, these two friends use humor and spiritual insight to look at where we are standing and how hard it is to travel, even in our minds, from War to Wisdom.d, “Instead, use your words.”