In this deeply personal episode of Empathy at the Table, I sit down with Chuck Kissel, CEO of CSU Fullerton Auxiliary Services, to talk about leadership, loyalty, and life-changing perspective.Chuck spent over 30 years rising through the ranks of a $70M organization, leading nearly 2,000 people. But what truly shook me—and shaped this conversation—is what happened one day in the office during the pandemic: Chuck suffered a sudden cardiac arrest and was clinically dead for four minutes.In this powerful conversation, we talk about:✅ The life lessons he learned after that near-death experience✅ Why leadership is about more than titles—it's about impact✅ The emotional toll of decision-making at the top✅ His negotiation mindset: patient, strategic, unafraid to walk away✅ How empathy fuels long-term culture, retention, and resilienceWhether you're an aspiring leader or a seasoned executive, Chuck’s journey will challenge you to rethink how you're showing up—for your team, and for yourself.Connect with Charles Kissel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesdkissel/To know more about Tony Anagorhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-anagor?FOLLOW Emotionally Intelligent Negotiation Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/einegotiation/?hl=enLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/company/emotionally-intelligent-negotiation-ein/Website: https://einegotiation.com/