What does it really take to transform education for millions of children in India’s government schools? In this episode, we unpack Madhukar's 15 years of experience working with state governments, district leaders, and teachers to create sustainable, large-scale education reform.

You’ll hear about:- Why “building government capacity” is essential for lasting education reform- How to balance urgency with the reality that true systems change takes decades- The role of teachers, middle managers, and proven pedagogy in driving learning outcomes- Why LFE chose to stay in one state for 10 years before expanding- Using demand-led teacher training and data to improve classroom practice- Rethinking board exam questions to improve both equity and learning outcomes