In this episode, Bill is joined by Tom Tull, former CIO of the Employees Retirement System of Texas. Tom shares his journey from a career in the military to becoming a prominent figure in public fund management. They discuss Tom's approach to building teams, redefining public funds as businesses, and the shift toward alternative investments. The conversation explores the challenges of asset allocation in a changing economic landscape, the rise of private markets, and the importance of transparency between LPs and GPs. Tom also provides insights into emerging investment opportunities, international markets, and the evolving role of secondary markets. Don’t miss this engaging discussion about the past, present, and future of asset management.