Jon interviews Dr. Stephen Wall from NYU on the podcast where they discuss the need for organs and how ECPR inclusion criteria can significantly impact the problem.





Stephen P. Wall, MD MSHS MAEd, is Tenured Associate Professor in the Departments of
Emergency Medicine and Population Health, NYU Grossman School of Medicine. Dr Wall was
project manager and lead methodologist for the NYC uncontrolled donation after circulatory death
(uDCD) program that attempted to increase kidney donation opportunities by considering those who
die unexpectedly outside hospitals. Results showed the public was supportive of uDCD, so long as
permission is obtained prior to any invasive procedures being performed on the deceased. Lessons
learned from the Kidney uDCD program provided justification to attempt in-hospital Lung uDCD in
NYC, a project funded by NHLBI (R61/R33HL156890 – PIs Wall and Robert Montgomery, MD PhD).
These projects involve cross-disciplinary collaborations with bioethicists, clinical experts from
medicine, surgery, emergency medicine, and transplantation, both within and external to hospitals
and academic medical centers. Dr. Wall’s research was covered in news media including NPR,
NBC, and the Atlantic.