In this episode hosted by computational designer Shankar Saanthakumar (ximulacra.com), we speak with Refik Anadol, an artist who transforms vast data sets from a variety of sources into immersive, hallucinatory video installations. In this way, he does alchemy with vital but sometimes-dry information sources such as climate projections or medical data, transmuting them into overwhelming and evocative aesthetic experiences. These works the suggest intelligent and malleable architectures that resonate with the liquid structure of dreams, memories, and imagination.