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Ecosystemic Futures
Dyan Finkhousen: CEO of Shoshin Works
121 episodes
3 days ago
Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century. Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world. Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.
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Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century. Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world. Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.
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106. Human Systems Engineering: Vision as Gravitational Force
Ecosystemic Futures
43 minutes 26 seconds
1 week ago
106. Human Systems Engineering: Vision as Gravitational Force

The future belongs to organizations that engineer ecosystems with spacecraft-level precision. Carol Erikson reveals the breakthrough: applying aerospace systems engineering to organizational transformation unlocks exponential performance gains across speed, cost, and effectiveness.


After 30 years leading aerospace missions and digital transformation at Northrop Grumman, Erikson discovered the paradigm that will define next-generation ecosystems: simultaneous execution of seemingly contradictory strategies. Aerospace-grade systems thinking creates adaptive networks that thrive under pressure, delivering breakthrough results while traditional approaches stagnate.


Paradigm Shifts:

→ Vision as Gravitational Force: Common vision doesn't just align - it functions as engineered gravity in human systems. Erikson reveals how aerospace teams design a "gravitational pull" that keeps ecosystem components in an orbital relationship, even when individual motivations diverge.

→ The Common Good Framework Revolution: Notre Dame researchers are developing the first systematic merger of DARPA's decades-proven AI "Common Test Framework" with ethics and trust mechanisms. This could become the universal operating system for human-AI ecosystem governance.

→ Systematic Insensitivity Protocol: Mission-critical ecosystems engineer deliberate "noise immunity" - systematic insensitivity to geopolitical chaos while maintaining collaborative urgency. Organizations that master this protocol gain a significant advantage during periods of fragmentation.

→ Big Rocks/Little Rocks Simultaneity: The counter-intuitive discovery that breakthrough transformation requires engineering for massive multi-year "big rock" changes AND rapid "little rock" wins simultaneously - with mathematical precision about which rocks to move when in the system architecture of change itself.


Ecosystem Impact:

→ Competition as Engineered Energy Source: Erikson reveals how to design "healthy competition" as a system component - transforming competitive dynamics from problem to managed energy that accelerates ecosystem performance

→ Interface Checkpoint Architecture: Human-AI collaboration designed with spacecraft-level interface specifications - measurable checkpoints, defined limits, and systematic trust mechanisms rather than hoping for organic adoption

→ Duplication-of-Effort Diagnostic: When transformation pilots proliferate in isolation, it signals the need for systematic integration. Organizations can now engineer transformation rather than managing random change initiatives

→ The Data-First Cascade Effect: Digital transformation follows aerospace assembly sequences - data quality and infrastructure must precede AI deployment, creating predictable transformation timelines and success metrics


Innovation: Applying aerospace systems engineering methodology to organizational transformation - treating culture change, digital infrastructure, and stakeholder alignment as integrated system components with defined interfaces, requirements, and failure modes. First systematic approach to engineering human ecosystems with spacecraft-level reliability.


Strategic Application: Any mission-critical ecosystem facing simultaneous pressure for speed, cost reduction, and performance improvement. Particularly powerful for regulated industries, defense contractors, healthcare systems, and infrastructure organizations where failure isn't an option.


Strategic Reframe: The most adaptive ecosystems will shift from asking "How do we manage organizational change?" to engineering the question: "What are the mathematical interface specifications for human-system collaboration at ecosystem scale - and how do we systematically design predictable behavioral outcomes using aerospace-level precision rather than hoping for emergent organizational alignment?"


The Hidden Revolution: Erikson reveals the birth of "Human Systems Engineering" - a new discipline treating human ecosystems as designable systems with engineered interfaces, quantifiable performance metrics, and predictable behavioral outcomes. Organizations that master this approach don't just transform faster; they engineer a sustainable competitive advantage through systematic human-system integration.


Guest: Carol Erikson, Founder & President, Erikson Mission Solutions | Former VP Digital Transformation, Northrop Grumman


Host: Marco Annunziata, Co-founder, Annunziata Desai Advisors


Series Hosts:

Vikram Shyam, Lead Futurist, NASA Glenn Research Center

Dyan Finkhousen, Founder & CEO, Shoshin Works


Ecosystemic Futures is provided by NASA onvergent Aeronautics Solutions Project in collaboration with Shoshin Works.

Ecosystemic Futures
Ecosystemic Futures engages with the world’s elite thought leaders who are researching and leading meaningful development in areas that could impact society in the next half century. Provided by Shoshin Works in collaboration with NASA Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project - Ecosystemic Futures explores technological advances and structural patterns that will help us better innovate, operate, and navigate in our increasingly connected world. Join the conversation as NASA leaders, and industry and policy luminaries share their perspectives with host Dyan Finkhousen, a leading strategist and global authority on ecosystemic solutions, and brilliant co-hosts.