In this raw and emotional episode, I sit down with Lulu and Georgina—two sisters who grew up in the chaos of having a father in prison. What starts as a conversation about parental imprisonment unfolds into a powerful exploration of shame, silence, systemic failure, and the unbreakable bond between siblings who carried each other through the storm.

We talk about what it’s really like for the children left behind:

The raids.

The media frenzy.

Being judged by teachers, friends, and strangers.

And the complete absence of support.

Georgina was arrested at 17—just for being related to the man who committed the crime. Lulu was a child being searched at prison visits, isolated by her peers, and silently carrying the burden of a family under siege.

Together, they’ve turned pain into purpose—becoming advocates for Children Heard and Seen, a charity supporting children affected by parental imprisonment.

This conversation is a call to action. It’s about seeing the invisible victims of crime, breaking the cycle of silence, and reminding every child out there who’s been impacted: It’s not your fault.

Key Topics Covered:

Living with media stigma when a parent goes to prison

The trauma of police raids and prison visits as a child

The emotional toll of secrecy, shame, and being judged

Attachment wounds and survival responses

How families hold each other together in chaos

The desperate need for better support and resources for children of prisoners

Why advocacy matters and what needs to change

Trigger Warning: This episode contains emotional conversations around childhood trauma, imprisonment, police raids, and systemic neglect.

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