In this episode, fashion-insider, host Kristen Cole sits with the wildly brilliant multi-hyphenates Claudia Dey and Heidi Sopinka, founders and designers of HORSES Atelier, and accomplished authors, to indulge in some favorite fashion in fiction. Kristen gets to geek out over the fashion and prose in *must-reads* Heartbreaker by Claudia Dey and Utopia by Heidi Sopinka, and some all-time fashion moment classics in C.S. Lewis, J.D. Salinger, and Roald Dahl; while Claudia and Heidi nerd out over fashion in Elena Ferrante's Neapolitan novels, Orlando by Virginia Woolf, James Salter's Light Years and everyone's favorite, Anne of Green Gables. The women discuss: "fashion as a form of autobiography", the role of vintage in their friendship, design and ethos and the HORSES values set around beauty, utility, wildness and endurance. They also talk about the cosmic founding of the brand, favorite spots in Toronto "like Brooklyn without Manhattan", their atelier practice, what's on their mood boards, prairie dresses, punk dressing, wildness and rebellion, Simone de Beauvoir, Judy Chicago, swans, donkeys, amazing cocktails, dressing their characters, creativity, connecting to life through observation, clothing as "soft armor", and what they are both reading now. "Fashion can be seen as frivolous, but it's also profound and emotional." -HORSES. Kristen also touches on what she's reading (and hopes to be beach-reading soon), NYC sample sales, Palm Beach retail, fashion in context, the perfect summer necklace, the dangers of working in SoHo... and more.