Devon Jecmen, who works in the outdoor education industry. She talks about a particularly chaotic trip she experienced with Scott Boersma, where they had to deal with a student sneaking a phone and testing positive for COVID-19. Despite the challenges, they made it through.Jecmen shares that she learned a lot from Boersma on that trip, especially how to handle stressful situations with a calm demeanor. She also learned the importance of being open to learning and growing in the outdoor industry.Jecmen was initially drawn to the outdoors through a friend's invitation to guide school. She has since transitioned from commercial guiding to outdoor education because she finds it more fulfilling. One of her favorite trips was a three-week trip with a small group of students. She enjoyed seeing the students grow and become more confident in their abilities.Jecmen has noticed a decrease in enrollment in outdoor programs recently and attributes this to financial difficulties and students having less experience in the outdoors. She believes the industry needs to focus on accessibility and adapting programs to meet the needs of today's students.In the rapid fire questions, Jecmen talks about her favorite river (the Dolores River), her favorite river meal (French toast or pineapple upside down cake), and her upcoming trip to the Grand Canyon.