The full 90 min chat with The Chief, who talks about his childhood in South Africa, moving to Leeds and getting used to tasteless food, and his friendship with the late Nelson Mandela, as well as much, much more. It’s a fascinating chat with a giant of the game both on the pitch and off it; one of Leeds’s all-time greats and somebody who continues to inspire people across the globe. 

Lucas has his own fantastic podcast, The Chief, which you can find at africasportschannel.com and @africasportsch1.

Towards the end of Jermaine, Matt and Lucas’s chat, they discuss several incredible charities, and you can find out more about what they do here:

CANSA - https://cansa.org.za
Lineham Farm - http://www.linehamfarm.co.uk
Reach for a Dream Foundation - https://reachforadream.org.za
Bambisanani Partnership - https://www.bambisananipartnership.org