Why is divorce one of the remaining taboo topics in our increasingly outspoken culture? Why can’t we speak more openly about something that happens to half of our legal unions? Why do some couples divorce and some not? Can you predict if you are headed there? And why are we so damn judgey of divorced people? Let’s pull back the curtain and talk about it.
Nicole Quallen, divorced person and divorce attorney, will be your host. Nicole has been asking all the questions about divorce since she went through her first one in 2009, and she’s just getting started. Nicole works as a collaborative divorce attorney in her practice, Two Families Law, where she has witnessed and cared for hundreds of families going through the big split. In this practice, Nicole and her team see unbelievable vulnerability, pain, tenderness, and, eventually, growth, and these magical experiences are so worthy of being shared more widely.
Divorced People is an offering to the world of an insight into the important, intimate, delicate world of divorce and marriage. It’s a caring stage where transformed folks can share what they have learned and seen. It’s also an attempted thorn into the heart of divorce stigma and pre-judgment about who divorced people are.
Join us to hear stories that are sometimes cheering, sometimes achey, and sometimes very ordinary. A reminder to us all that divorced people are, it turns out, mostly just people.
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Why is divorce one of the remaining taboo topics in our increasingly outspoken culture? Why can’t we speak more openly about something that happens to half of our legal unions? Why do some couples divorce and some not? Can you predict if you are headed there? And why are we so damn judgey of divorced people? Let’s pull back the curtain and talk about it.
Nicole Quallen, divorced person and divorce attorney, will be your host. Nicole has been asking all the questions about divorce since she went through her first one in 2009, and she’s just getting started. Nicole works as a collaborative divorce attorney in her practice, Two Families Law, where she has witnessed and cared for hundreds of families going through the big split. In this practice, Nicole and her team see unbelievable vulnerability, pain, tenderness, and, eventually, growth, and these magical experiences are so worthy of being shared more widely.
Divorced People is an offering to the world of an insight into the important, intimate, delicate world of divorce and marriage. It’s a caring stage where transformed folks can share what they have learned and seen. It’s also an attempted thorn into the heart of divorce stigma and pre-judgment about who divorced people are.
Join us to hear stories that are sometimes cheering, sometimes achey, and sometimes very ordinary. A reminder to us all that divorced people are, it turns out, mostly just people.
Ep. 2 Maggie Smith: Honesty, Integrity, and Endurance in the Messy Middle
Divorced People
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2 years ago
Ep. 2 Maggie Smith: Honesty, Integrity, and Endurance in the Messy Middle
Poet, and now memoirist, Maggie Smith has made the messy middle of her divorce into a stunning and captivating piece of art: You Could Make This Place Beautiful, her newest book. Maggie's marriage began its formal ending in 2018, and she has been processing the experience in so many ways, including some of my favorite writings on the topic. (I give her book "Keep Moving" to loads of new clients who are in the roughest starts of their journeys and her Modern Love column took my breath away in the earliest days of my own separation)
Listen as Maggie and I discuss marriage culture, wedding culture, small town culture, and why she is suspicious of the "before and after" transformation narrative. Maggie inspires the hell out of me when it comes to "the messy middle" of divorce, before there is a shiny new healed version of life, and also about just being radically, beautifully honest about... everything. This conversation just scratches the surface of what Maggie shares in her stunning book, so please get your hands on a copy of it. It's truly a gift and so are you, Maggie Smith!
New book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/You-Could-Make-This-Place-Beautiful/Maggie-Smith/9781982185855
The gorgeous poem, Good Bones, that took Maggie's work viral: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/89897/good-bones
Modern Love piece: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/04/style/modern-love-end-of-marriage-google-maps.html
Divorced People
Why is divorce one of the remaining taboo topics in our increasingly outspoken culture? Why can’t we speak more openly about something that happens to half of our legal unions? Why do some couples divorce and some not? Can you predict if you are headed there? And why are we so damn judgey of divorced people? Let’s pull back the curtain and talk about it.
Nicole Quallen, divorced person and divorce attorney, will be your host. Nicole has been asking all the questions about divorce since she went through her first one in 2009, and she’s just getting started. Nicole works as a collaborative divorce attorney in her practice, Two Families Law, where she has witnessed and cared for hundreds of families going through the big split. In this practice, Nicole and her team see unbelievable vulnerability, pain, tenderness, and, eventually, growth, and these magical experiences are so worthy of being shared more widely.
Divorced People is an offering to the world of an insight into the important, intimate, delicate world of divorce and marriage. It’s a caring stage where transformed folks can share what they have learned and seen. It’s also an attempted thorn into the heart of divorce stigma and pre-judgment about who divorced people are.
Join us to hear stories that are sometimes cheering, sometimes achey, and sometimes very ordinary. A reminder to us all that divorced people are, it turns out, mostly just people.
