Elizabeth speaks with her 'disaster buddy' Dr Kate Brady. Kate has a PhD in Public Health with a focus on disaster recovery. She is the National Recovery Adviser for Australian Red Cross Emergency Services and Senior Research Fellow at the University of New South Wales.

In this episode, they discuss why imagination isn’t always helpful, the pragmatic reality of systems change, and pros of asset-based community development. They touch on burnout, the emotional toll of recovery work and how it’s changed their world views. Kate tells us about her podcast, her newest research project, and what life was like juggling work with newborn twins during the pandemic. Elizabeth and Kate agree on the need for more support and training for anyone working in disasters.

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