Patrick and Maria swap places for this episode, as Maria interviews Patrick about Stammering Pride and Prejudice and his other stammering work. Patrick talks about the tensions in writing about stammering pride, the power of artistic collaborations and how the stammering community has changed and developed over the past decade. Links: Stammering Pride and Prejudice: Difference not Defect by Patrick Campbell, Christopher Constantino and Sam Simpson What if we fight for our right to stammer by Patrick Campbell JJJJJerome Ellis quote Stuttering Gain by Christopher Constantino Paul Aston Painter Stuttering Philosopher, 1915 by Stanisław Szukalski Dysfluent by Conor Foran Dr. Patrick Campbell is an academic, doctor and stammerer. His work in stammering focuses on exploring positive ways of understanding stammering and challenging societal stigmas. Dr. Maria Stuart teaches at University College Dublin in the School of English, Drama, and Film. Her areas of focus are American literature, crime fiction, and dysfluency studies.