I was lucky enough to spend some proper quality time with Chris Ramsay, Michael Phillip, and Luigi Venditelli at Contact in the Desert this year — so I wanted to bring everyone together for a chat about how we found the event, what stood out, and where the conversation around UFOs might be heading.It’s more than just a recap — we dive into personal experiences, unexpected moments, and broader ideas that go well beyond the desert setting. Whether you were there or not, this one’s for anyone curious about the shifting landscape of the phenomenon.