British filmmaker David Ledger joins us fresh off the plane to discuss his deeply personal debut short film Rejoyce!, screening at the Hong Kong Lesbian and Gay Film Festival. What began as grief for his grandmother Joyce transformed into a radical story about an 85-year-old woman discovering her sexual agency - challenging everything we assume about older people’s desires and identities.

In this candid conversation, David reveals how he imagined an alternate timeline for his enigmatic grandmother, why women of her generation lacked the words to conceptualise their own sexuality, and the surprising responses he’s received from older queer audiences worldwide. We explore the intersection of faith and desire, the complexities of directing intimate scenes with older actors, and why churches proved more welcoming than expected.

David also shares practical insights from transforming grief into art, the importance of asking our grandparents uncomfortable questions before it’s too late, and his plans to expand Winifred’s story into a feature film. A thoughtful discussion about representation, intergenerational communication, and the hidden stories that exist in every family.