In this episode, Sam and Tay sit down with Matt — the Operations Manager at RLS whose career has taken him from a small town in Victoria, to caring for animals at one of Australia's most iconic places, to leading teams in the disability sector. 🦁💼

They chat about the unexpected lessons you can learn from working with animals, the misconceptions that surround both zookeeping and disability support, and what true leadership really looks like.

From navigating career transitions to personal growth and finding your footing in management, this conversation is full of insight, honesty, and a few laughs along the way.