I have often referred to carving a "third way" on this podcast; since I was very young I've tried very hard to live authentically and have so often felt unable to do so within the systems around me. This has been especially true politically because, as a Catholic, I consider my final allegiance to God and His Church. Of course, I'm a law abiding, tax-paying citizen of the United States, and I do not take for granted the privilege and freedom that comes with that. Still, I have felt constrained and disempowered by the American political system ever since I was too young to vote, because there was no party to which I could belong that upheld the values consistent with my faith.

Now, I thought quite hard about whether to quote/unquote "make this podcast political," but I quote Jonathan Lee Walton in Episode 5, saying, "one can't make moral claims that don't have political implications," and that's where I think I land when I consider whether to discuss politics in our time together. If you want to know more about where I'm coming from in terms of politics, listen to Episode 5 from this season. This week's episode fills in a bit of the picture I sketched there: my guest, Destiny Herndon de la Rosa and I discuss a "third way" in terms of pro-life politics and what it means to ascribe to a consistent life ethic. And with Destiny's organization, New Wave Feminists, I think I've found a place to fit in, politically.

A content warning for this episode: in this conversation, we mention sexual assault, teen pregnancy, and abortion. If you're not in danger of being triggered by these topics, join us to consider a "third way" of thinking about the pro-life cause, immigration, and the development of a nonviolent culture of life.