In this episode, Neil and Gordon discuss the concept of slow productivity and the importance of creating space and focus in our work. They reflect on the history of work and how our perception of productivity has shifted from physical output to digital communication. They also share their own strategies for managing their time and avoiding unnecessary meetings and emails. The conversation highlights the need for self-awareness and the impact of technology on our work habits. The conversation covers various topics including self-awareness, the impact of AI, the importance of quality over speed, and the shift towards curated and artisanal products. They also discuss the decline of certain activities like going to clubs and music festivals, and the need for a slower and more thoughtful approach to content creation. The conversation ends with a mention of signing up for a race and the importance of staying active.