In this episode, the Hairpin team speaks with Nat Kendall-Taylor, CEO of the FrameWorks Institute—a think tank that helps organizations more effectively communicate about a wide variety of social issues. While many of us in the social sector work to advance aspirational solutions to systemic problems, there are deep and durable myths that run under all of our work and challenge our efforts to build support and make change. We hear from Nat about these myths—individualism, fatalism, tribalism—and how they characterize the cultural divide that the recent U.S. election exposed. In a sector whose success depends on stakeholders coming together, how do social advocates navigate this fragmented moment? And is our national polarization as deep and intractable as we are led to believe?

Learn more about FrameWorks: www.frameworksinstitute.org