Pluto stations direct on October 13, and this powerful shift may explain why so many of us are feeling what Joanna calls “trust fatigue.”

In this episode of Demystifying Divinity, Joanna and Jenny explore what happens when you’ve been surrendering, trusting, and doing the inner work—yet still haven’t seen tangible results. They discuss the emotional and energetic exhaustion that often accompanies deep transformation, and how Pluto’s influence invites us into a cycle of death, rebirth, and renewal.

Together, they unpack the importance of shifting from a “doing” mindset to a “being” state, trusting in divine timing, and learning to manage your energy as sacred. This conversation reminds us that internal evolution always precedes external change—and that sometimes, the chaos you feel is simply the old version of you dissolving.

Tune in to better understand the energy of Pluto direct, the deeper meaning behind trust fatigue, and how to navigate your personal rebirth with self-awareness and grace.