South Africa and the USA - friends, foes, or just tangled in a complicated dance? At this incredibly tenuous moment in time when the relationship between South Africa and the USA is under the spotlight, this Democracy Unplugged conversation moderated by Phumi Mashigo, dives into this important conversation. From Afrikaans farmers being offered refuge status in America, to dramatic budget cuts and now the South African Ambassador being booted out where does SA really stand? We unpack the drama, the diplomacy, and the deals shaping our future with our esteemed panel. Panelists: Brooks Spector – a former US diplomat, journalist, and expert on international affairs. With decades of experience analysing global politics—especially US-South Africa relations. Ernst van Zyl, Head of Public Relations at AfriForum. A prominent voice in South African political discourse – well now for his presence on X "Conscious Caracal" - Ernst is known for his sharp analysis. Thebe Ikalafeng, a leading African branding expert, strategist, and thought leader. Thebe has been recognised as one of the 100 Most Influential Africans by New African Magazine, 100 Most Reputable Africans by Reputation International and 100 Most Influential Creative People of African Descent...and that's only a snippet of his accolades.