In this episode, Glenn and Richard discuss trauma, a central concept in the psychotherapy landscape. They explore the history of trauma, its contemporary definitions and framing, and deconstruct the space of trauma, emphasizing a return to the subjectivity of the client. This episode incorporates the work of Mark Epstein (The Trauma of Everyday Life) and Donald Kalsched (The Inner World of Trauma, Trauma and the Soul) to resituate the discussion of trauma around inner psychological dynamics. Trauma is emphasized as inescapable and essential in human life, and as sometimes affording the possibility of growth.