In this episode, William Tincup chats with Natalie Egan, CEO and founder of Translator, about the progress and challenges of DEI in the workplace. They dive into Natalie's innovative company, Translator, which revolutionizes DEI training technology, enabling businesses to deliver powerful DEI programs. Natalie emphasizes the crucial role of cutting-edge, data-driven methods to monitor cultural shifts and assess empathy, intersectionality, and the effects of micro-aggressions on specific communities within organizations. They touch on the concept of "DEI fatigue" and the the critical role that consistent conversations, awareness, and investment play in driving meaningful progress. Listen in as they explore the shift from unconscious bias training to more nuanced approaches, the importance of representation, and the urgency of measuring culture change.