In this episode, William Tincup speaks with Clarence Lal, Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Planet Labs, and Marcus Sawyerr, founder of EQ Community. Throughout the conversation, Clarence and Marcus provide valuable insights into the current state of DEI in recruitment and retention, highlighting both the progress made and the ongoing challenges that need to be addressed for a truly inclusive and equitable workforce. They both acknowledge strides made in increasing awareness and intentionality around DEI. However, they also recognize areas where more work is needed. Clarence points to the need for channeling passion and intentionality into tangible outcomes, while Marcus highlights the importance of retention and creating an inclusive environment that empowers underrepresented employees. Clarence also shares his experience with disaggregating data to better understand promotions, compensation, and equity among different groups. Meanwhile, Marcus suggests that representation at all levels in relation to the population is a key measure of progress in DEI.