It’s rivalry week in Utah, but before the battle on the gridiron, the presidents of Brigham Young University and the University of Utah join the show to discuss collaboration.

Host Nic Dunn sits down with BYU President Shane Reese and UofU President Taylor Randall for a joint interview. Together, they discuss how these two major universities are partnering on research, medical innovation, and civic renewal, and what it means to bring faith and pluralism into public life. They also explore how humility, listening, and “disagreeing better” can help strengthen higher education and our shared civic culture.

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