Summary

In this conversation, Tom McSorley, the General Counsel of NATO's DIANA, discusses the agency's mission to drive innovation in defense technology. He shares insights into his background, the startup culture within DIANA, and the challenges of procurement in the defense sector. The discussion highlights the importance of dual-use technology, the need for collaboration between startups and established defense primes, and the role of investors in supporting innovative solutions. McSorley emphasizes the urgency for NATO to adapt to modern technological advancements and the opportunities that lie ahead for defense innovation.

Takeaways

• DIANA is NATO's innovation engine focused on delivering technology to users.
• Tom McSorley's background includes experience in private sector defense and national security.
• DIANA operates with a startup culture to foster innovation within NATO.
• The agency has a mandate to act agilely and address technology needs of allies.
• NATO's procurement processes often hinder innovation and speed.
• Dual-use technology is essential for bridging civil and defense sectors.
• Investors need to understand the unique risks associated with defense technology.
• The importance of building a network of trusted investors for startups.
• Innovation in defense is critical for modern warfare and security.
• The future of defense technology relies on collaboration between startups and established primes.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to NATO Diana

04:22 Tom McSorley's Background and Journey

09:13 The Startup Culture at NATO Diana

14:14 Understanding NATO's Procurement Process

19:00 The Need for Innovation in Defense

23:58 Challenges in Technology Transfer

28:58 Support for Companies Engaging with Diana

30:30 Accelerating Innovation: The Diana Program

34:02 Success Stories: Innovations in Action

37:44 Understanding Dual Use: A Strategic Perspective

46:32 Challenges in Procurement: Navigating the System

54:47 Transforming Procurement: Cultural and Systemic Changes

01:01:41 Navigating New Norms in Defense Technology

01:05:16 The Role of Innovation in Supply Chains

01:06:21 De-risking for Stakeholders in Defense

01:15:58 Evaluating Startups and Investors in Defense

01:24:45 Opportunities and Risks in Defense Innovation