What’s the drive behind making music? For composers like Steven Daverson and me, it’s more than just notes on a page, it’s about connection, creativity, and finding meaning in sound.In this conversation, we reflect on 20 years of friendship, the tension between solitude and collaboration, the thrill (and terror) of hearing your work performed live, and how deadlines can be both a curse and a creative gift. We also explore why, in a chaotic world, making something beautiful might just be the most radical act of all. Join us as we go deep into the art of composition, the struggles and joys of music-making, and what truly keeps us coming back to the blank page.