Deep Convection is a podcast featuring real conversations between climate scientists (or sometimes those working in areas adjacent to climate science). The goal is to capture what it is like to work in our field at this moment in history. We talk about our lives, how we came to do what we do, what the work means to us, and how that is changing, or isn’t – and sometimes about science. Our top priority is to capture good conversations, but if some learning happens that’s fine too.
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Deep Convection is a podcast featuring real conversations between climate scientists (or sometimes those working in areas adjacent to climate science). The goal is to capture what it is like to work in our field at this moment in history. We talk about our lives, how we came to do what we do, what the work means to us, and how that is changing, or isn’t – and sometimes about science. Our top priority is to capture good conversations, but if some learning happens that’s fine too.
In Adam's memory, Sumner's life is divided into the pre-Sue and Sue eras, with Sue being Susan Lehman, aka Sue Crane, aka Aunt Sue to Adam and his sister. Sue came originally from California, moved around in her youth, wound up in New York by the mid-1980s, and met Sumner sometime around 1990, right when he moved up to the Catskills for a few months to take care of his dying father. Not too long after that, they moved in together to her place in Sunset Park, Brooklyn. Sue worked as a middle school earth science teacher, Sumner painted apartments, and they lived happily ever after (in spite of being very broke at the beginning), until Sumner's death in 2003. During this whole time, they worked together on Sumner's research project about the painter Edward Simmons, and eventually published four co-authored articles about Simmons. Sue talks with Adam about meeting Sumner, his music, his art, his personality, and their life together. At the end, she tells a story about the talent show he made her whole family do on New Year's Eve Y2K. This interview was mostly recorded in August 2024, except for the last bit which was recorded in May 2025 (and the musical interludes, which were recorded earlier, by Sumner).
Photo by Sue's sister Cathy McIntyre, taken at Sue & Sumner's wedding, in 1995.
Deep Convection
Deep Convection is a podcast featuring real conversations between climate scientists (or sometimes those working in areas adjacent to climate science). The goal is to capture what it is like to work in our field at this moment in history. We talk about our lives, how we came to do what we do, what the work means to us, and how that is changing, or isn’t – and sometimes about science. Our top priority is to capture good conversations, but if some learning happens that’s fine too.
