In this episode of The Debatable Podcast, hosts Saqar (Ahhah Ahershu) and Den Tut Rayay revisit one of Harlem’s most powerful stories — the legendary fallout between Jim Jones and Max B.

They explore how the two artists went from brotherhood to rivalry, the business moves that fueled their split, and what their story reveals about hip-hop’s deeper issues: loyalty, leadership, and legacy.

The hosts also connect the dots between Harlem’s golden era and the modern battle rap economy, breaking down how artists turn conflict into currency — and what today’s MCs can learn from the Harlem icons who built movements out of music.

🎙️ Featuring topics like:

• The rise and fall of ByrdGang and the “Wavy Movement”

• Could Jim Jones and Max B ever reconcile?

• The role of business, branding, and betrayal in hip-hop’s biggest beefs

• The future of structured competition in battle rap culture

Tap in for smart, street, and strategic conversation from The Debatable — powered by MC WAR, the official sport of rap battling.

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