On this episode, Four and our guest Bong Ugale; a visual artist from the Philippines, had a conversation about a book written by Bobby Hundreds that motivates creators like them to keep pushing for our dreams but also acknowledging that there's no shame in letting go of a specific dream because it's not about the destination, it's about starting the car and seeing where it takes you. 

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