The Pace of Love: How Do We Learn to Move Slowly Again?

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Dark Night Podcast

Nemr Institute

11 episodes

2 days ago

Join tap dance artist Andrew Nemr and pastor Mike Freeman as they explore Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross. This common human experience strips away what we use to orient ourselves in the world, often leaving us feeling lost and confused-but also inviting us to endure. These conversations were part of Andrew's preparation for a 12-hour improvised tap dance performance. The podcast is part of the Dark Night Project presented by Nemr Institute and KalosWorks.org, made possible by generous partners and supporters.

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The Pace of Love: How Do We Learn to Move Slowly Again? | Ep. 9

Dark Night Podcast

1 hour 13 minutes 4 seconds

4 weeks ago

The Pace of Love: How Do We Learn to Move Slowly Again? | Ep. 9

In this episode, Andrew and Mike continue their journey through The Dark Night of the Soul, exploring Book Two, Chapters 12-15. They reflect on the image of the Divine who moves slowly, at the pace of love not efficiency, and what it means to walk with such a God through stillness, silence, and surrender. Drawing from scripture, lived experience, and the rhythm of everyday life, they unpack the difference between spiritual striving and divine timing.

Book II chapters 12-15

00:00 Introduction to The Dark Night Podcast

03:58 Personal Experiences and Vocational Ministry Challenges

21:46 Reflections on the Dark Night Live Performance

38:50 Facing Retirement and Vocational Calling

42:24 The Role of Presence in Vocational Ministry

48:43 The Three Mile an Hour God

58:40 Paul's Struggle to Articulate Spiritual Realities

01:06:57 The Pain and Glory of Ministry

01:12:08 Final Thoughts