Inspired by the uphill time trial and the Queens stage of the Tour de France, the team sit down to discuss young Matt's recent theory around the difference in chasing maximal vs marginal gains for amateur riders vs. pro riders.

Listen in for some lessons we learnt from the tour, how avoiding stupidity is better than seeking brilliance and Mat's survey of all the common seat height methods - so you can decide what works best for yo!

Show links:

1. Pogi's uphill time trial bike

2. Should you ride a time trial bike up hill?

3. Avoiding Stupidity is Easier Than Seeking Brilliance.

4. A survey of the most common saddle height methods and the surprising gold standard.

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