As holding companies expand their grip on marketing budgets, independent production companies risk getting pushed to the margins. But in today's fragmented media landscape, there's a growing advantage for smaller, more nimble partners. Independents are often better equipped to work across platforms, adapt quickly, and offer the kind of specialized attention big networks only promise. In this episode, Jillian Gibbs (author of The Marketer's Guide to Creative Production and founder of APR) joins the conversation to break down the current power dynamics in marketing production. Together, we map the evolving landscape, unpack how brands are really making decisions, and offer a roadmap for independents to not just survive, but win. If you're a production company or agency trying to stand out, this conversation will help you rethink your value and sharpen your edge.