Speaking up might earn you a name like “mouthy” or “bitch,” but is it really better to stay silent? Lisa and Trudy discuss the difference between a Karen and a crone, when to speak up and the wisdom one gains with age. 

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• (01:01) - Coming in hot
• (04:29) - Mouthy but not entitled
• (09:03) - Speaking up
• (12:53) - Fear of the Karen
• (18:38) - Don’t make a scene
• (25:46) - Aging out of people-pleasing

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin 

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen