Cass Cooper interviews MacKenzie Brown, the Vice President of Security at Black Point Cyber, discussing the evolving landscape of cybersecurity. They delve into the challenges organizations face with Managed Detection and Response (MDR) and Identity Detection and Response (IDR), emphasizing the importance of trust in providers and the need for robust security measures. The conversation also explores the role of AI in enhancing threat detection and the significance of mentorship and passion for future leaders in the cybersecurity field.