"We don't want to be in pain," said guest, Guida Brown, from Guided by Guida. Thus began a spirited discussion on fentanyl. Over 72,000 people died last year from using fentanyl.

Unfortunately, "harm reduction" has become the catch-all phrase for everything. Guida and Tony talk about opioids and fentanyl and how it is so potent in making you feel good temporarily. Then the pain returns.

Guida does have a solution to the epidemic and it starts in schools. If you have a fentanyl problem in your community, we highly recommend that you listen to this podcast.

Guida Brown lives in Kenosha Wisconsin with her family. She is the author of a blog, 4 Cs of Addiction.