Creating content has never been easier – but breaking through the noise has gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through observation, experimentation, and iteration.
This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies and experiments you can apply to your business. Each episode features candid conversations with today’s top creators—like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez—sharing actionable insights to help you grow your audience, build trust, and boost your income.
This isn’t just an interview podcast—it’s a deep dive into the business of content, hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse.
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Creating content has never been easier – but breaking through the noise has gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through observation, experimentation, and iteration.
This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies and experiments you can apply to your business. Each episode features candid conversations with today’s top creators—like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez—sharing actionable insights to help you grow your audience, build trust, and boost your income.
This isn’t just an interview podcast—it’s a deep dive into the business of content, hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse.
It's growth for creators, down to a science.
#276: From self-publishing to traditional and becoming a NYT best-seller | Pat Flynn (Part 2)
Creator Science
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3 days ago
#276: From self-publishing to traditional and becoming a NYT best-seller | Pat Flynn (Part 2)
This episode is part two of my recent conversation with Pat Flynn. Pat, is an online business legend, and this is the third time he's been on the show. Pat is the founder of Smart Passive Income.
In this episode, we dig into his experience publishing his latest book, Lean Learning: How to Achieve More by Learning Less. Lean Learning was a New York Times bestseller.
Get Pat’s book, Lean Learning
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Reached Goal, Life Unchanged
04:14 Navigating Traditional Publishing Challenges
08:46 Leveraging Connections for Future Opportunities
12:21 Book Launch Strategy Concerns
15:38 Just in Time Learning
19:33 Unexpected Pokemon-Entrepreneurship Crossover
23:06 Multitasking Prevents Entrepreneur Burnout
25:49 Podcast Guesting Boosted Book Launch
29:37 Book Launch and Interview Journey
32:46 Monthly Networking Reflection Ritual
36:27 Collaborative Friendship and Opportunities
37:03 Embracing Abundance, Supporting Each Other
40:31 Leave Feedback on Podcasts
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Creator Science
Creating content has never been easier – but breaking through the noise has gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through observation, experimentation, and iteration.
This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies and experiments you can apply to your business. Each episode features candid conversations with today’s top creators—like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez—sharing actionable insights to help you grow your audience, build trust, and boost your income.
This isn’t just an interview podcast—it’s a deep dive into the business of content, hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse.
It's growth for creators, down to a science.
