Creating content has never been easier. But breaking through the noise? That's gotten harder.
The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through systematic observation, experimentation, and iteration. This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies you can test in your own business.
Each episode features candid conversations with creators like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez. We explore what's actually working for them: the experiments they're running, the data they're tracking, and the frameworks they use to grow their audience, build trust, and increase income.
But here's what makes this different: we don't just talk about what happened. We dig into why it worked, how you can adapt it, and what constraints or anti-goals helped them stay focused and avoid burnout.
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Creating content has never been easier. But breaking through the noise? That's gotten harder.
The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through systematic observation, experimentation, and iteration. This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies you can test in your own business.
Each episode features candid conversations with creators like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez. We explore what's actually working for them: the experiments they're running, the data they're tracking, and the frameworks they use to grow their audience, build trust, and increase income.
But here's what makes this different: we don't just talk about what happened. We dig into why it worked, how you can adapt it, and what constraints or anti-goals helped them stay focused and avoid burnout.
Hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse, this is a show about the business of content – approached with curiosity, transparency, and a commitment to sustainable growth.
It's growth for creators, down to a science.
#274: Podcast growth strategies (paid and organic) with Jeff Umbro of The Podglomerate
Creator Science
1 hour 4 minutes
1 month ago
#274: Podcast growth strategies (paid and organic) with Jeff Umbro of The Podglomerate
This week, I'm speaking with my friend Jeff Umbro. Jeff is the founder and CEO of The Podglomerate, which helps you produce, market, and monetize your podcast. The Podglomerate's worked with some of the biggest podcast clients in the world, from creators like me to major brands like Netflix, NPR, PBS, HubSpot, Harvard, Substack, and more. Since its start in 2016, The Podglomerate has grown to represent more than 70 podcasts, accounting for more than 30 million monthly downloads.
All that to say, Jeff is legit, and he knows his stuff. One of the things I appreciate most about Jeff is that he's honest and a straight shooter. So, in this episode, we talk about podcast growth, explore both organic and paid growth strategies, Jeff's experience with both, and, of course, I share my experience as well.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Jeff Umbro: Podcasting Powerhouse
05:42 Innovative Marketing and Networking Strategy
06:33 Niche Show Strategy Planning
10:45 Podcast Audience Growth Strategy
13:39 AI Prompts Drive Web Traffic
17:03 Building Cross-Platform Audience Connections
21:10 Growing Podcast Audiences: Strategy Insights
22:32 Podcast Promotion Over Essays
29:06 Spotify's Editorial and Algorithmic Opportunities
32:03 Apple Podcast Metrics and Exploits
35:24 Spotify's Video Incentive Strategy
38:52 Spotify's Creator Fund Strategy
42:22 Ad Strategies: Effectiveness Varies
45:16 Podcast Advertising & Audience Alignment
47:51 Effective Pixel-Based Attribution Tracking
49:32 Monetizing Podcasts Through Feed Drops
52:56 Pod Roll: Dynamic RSS Episode Inserts
57:28 Affordable Podcast Advertising Platforms
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Creator Science
Creating content has never been easier. But breaking through the noise? That's gotten harder.
The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through systematic observation, experimentation, and iteration. This podcast is your weekly guide to evidence-backed strategies you can test in your own business.
Each episode features candid conversations with creators like James Clear, Ali Abdaal, Tim Urban, and Codie Sanchez. We explore what's actually working for them: the experiments they're running, the data they're tracking, and the frameworks they use to grow their audience, build trust, and increase income.
But here's what makes this different: we don't just talk about what happened. We dig into why it worked, how you can adapt it, and what constraints or anti-goals helped them stay focused and avoid burnout.
Hosted by Signal Award-winner Jay Clouse, this is a show about the business of content – approached with curiosity, transparency, and a commitment to sustainable growth.
It's growth for creators, down to a science.
