In this episode, Phoebe Nelson of Pandrd Design Co shares her journey from in house graphic designer to full time muralist (yes that's painting cool designs on walls all over the world).
We dive into changing the mindset around be grateful to be an artist, aka the starving artist, to get paid for your work, and value what you do. She shares about lessons learned about sexism and speaking with confidence, why site visits are not necessary, and how her contract has developed over the years.
We discuss the slippery slope artists face when working for free to build a portfolio as well as those that are doing it for "fun" and the broader impact that has on the artist community.
We get into money talk. Her biggest money challenge in the last 3 years and her biggest financial win along with new things she's trying out this year, how she finds assistants in the places she's painting, and lessons learned about
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