Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.
Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.
We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.
Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.
If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.
This is Cosmosis.
Come with us.
Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.
https://Cosmosis.Media
[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]
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Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.
Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.
We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.
Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.
If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.
This is Cosmosis.
Come with us.
Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.
https://Cosmosis.Media
[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]
Ep 9: Daniel Elizondo on Narrative Control, The Secret Onion, and Vallée's Forbidden Science
Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]
1 hour 8 minutes
4 months ago
Ep 9: Daniel Elizondo on Narrative Control, The Secret Onion, and Vallée's Forbidden Science
In this episode, researcher and Loose Threads co-author Daniel Elizondo joins us for a far-reaching conversation about UFO secrecy, the architecture of disinformation, and the psychological terrain of the phenomenon itself.
We dig into Jacques Vallée’s “Secret Onion”—a layered model of compartmentalization that explains how information is controlled and obscured within intelligence structures—and explore how narrative control operates both externally through infotainment and internally through belief, seduction, and epistemic vulnerability.
Daniel breaks down the long history of rug pulls, the weaponization of mystery, and what it means to resist the gravitational pull of being “the one” to break the story. We also talk Forbidden Science, Skywatcher, and the invisible handshake between researchers and the phenomenon they seek to understand.
If you’ve ever wondered who controls the narrative—or if you’re part of it—this episode is for you.📚 Resources and References
Loose Threads by Daniel Elizondo and the Hermetic Penetrator
Forbidden Science 6: Scattered Castles by Jacques Vallée
UFOs: Past, Present, and Future by Robert Emenegger
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TIMESTAMPS02:24 Sky Watcher and UFO Community Skepticism08:48 Historical Precedents in UFO Disclosure10:30 The Holloman Air Force Base Incident14:35 Challenges in UFO Disclosure and Infotainment21:45 Personal Experiences and Intelligence Community Interactions30:58 Navigating the Insider's Club and Forbidden Science33:08 The Repeated Revelations of Jacques Vallee35:25 The Evolution of the Invisible College39:57 The Secret Onion: Layers of Secrecy49:46 The Phenomenon and Human Curiosity56:57 The Control Mechanism: Micro and Macro Perspectives01:01:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]
Reality isn’t what you’ve been told.
Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality.
We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community talking points. We’re after the real story—one that’s far stranger, far more beautiful, and far more transformative than we've ever been told.
Each episode brings you in-the-field conversations and deep-dive interviews with experiencers, researchers, scientists, and visionaries—people pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and reimagining what it means to be human.
If you’ve ever felt the signal beneath the noise… if you’re ready to question everything and follow that signal into the unknown—you’re in the right place.
This is Cosmosis.
Come with us.
Brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.
https://Cosmosis.Media
[This is also where you can find all the archives from The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast.]
