Daniel and Manton talk about Apple's new Image Playground, an AI-based graphic generator. Even if it's not super-impressive, maybe it's exciting for the average user? Manton relates his recent attempts to write a new app in SwiftUI, which leads to an assessment of whether SwiftUI is ready for prime-time on iOS and/or Mac. Finally, they talk about whether we’re all propelling towards a web-only future, and whether that might be just fine.

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