In this episode, Steve interviews Paul Verber, a seasoned public safety officer with 25 years of experience, known as the 'Water Cop.' They discuss the importance of water safety training for first responders, the need to bridge the gap between police and fire departments, and the challenges faced in water rescue operations. Paul shares his journey into water rescue, emphasizing hands-on training and the significance of understanding the difference between distress and drowning. The conversation highlights the camaraderie among first responders and the need for progressive training methods to enhance effectiveness in emergency situations.