n this episode of the Copper State Firemen podcast, Battalion Chief Jamie Howarth shares her extensive experience in the fire service, discussing her journey from aspiring police officer to a leading figure in a major metropolitan fire department. She emphasizes the importance of leadership, operational efficiency through SOGs, and the evolving culture within the fire service. Jamie also highlights the challenges of transitioning from a task-oriented to an objective-oriented leadership role and the significance of clear communication and expectations in building high-performing teams. Additionally, she introduces her podcast, which aims to foster thoughtful discussions on leadership and share insights from various fire service professionals. In this conversation, Steve and Jamie Howarth discuss the importance of leadership, mentorship, and accountability within the fire service. They explore the challenges faced by new recruits and the need for effective training and support from experienced officers. Jamie emphasizes the significance of understanding the mission statement of fire departments and the necessity of investing in personnel to foster a positive culture. They also touch on the realities of the job, the importance of celebrating retirements, and the need for a fair promotional process that values experience and mentorship.