In the Language of the Soul podcast, Ben and Martin discuss the challenges and opportunities we encounter on our path to inner wisdom. A journey of profound exploration in learning our own Language of the Soul.
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In the Language of the Soul podcast, Ben and Martin discuss the challenges and opportunities we encounter on our path to inner wisdom. A journey of profound exploration in learning our own Language of the Soul.
In this episode, Ben interviews Zeke Perkins, a labor organizer with an extensive history over the last 15 years in the protest movement. He shares his experience tracking, recording and interacting with Commander Bovino and his 80 U.S. Border Patrol agents as they moved through Chicago as an occupying army on Sunday, September 28th, 2025.
Conversations on Healing & Growth
In the Language of the Soul podcast, Ben and Martin discuss the challenges and opportunities we encounter on our path to inner wisdom. A journey of profound exploration in learning our own Language of the Soul.
