In this episode, the conversation shifts to the concept of inclusive mentorship, emphasizing the importance of non-human mentors and the fluid, reciprocal nature of mentorship. The speakers discuss the challenges of traditional mentorship models, which are often hierarchical and time bound. They highlight the need for understanding diverse needs and the resilience of newcomers. The discussion also touches on the internal transformation required for immigrants to feel a sense of belonging and the systemic barriers they face, advocating for inclusive mentorship that considers holistic personal growth and self-leadership.